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Rumblebelly by Asanbonsam Rumblebelly by Asanbonsam
Originally this baboon descendent for the Allocene project should have come out a bit more entelodont like. But then I noticed that I simply couldn't get a more entelodont-like body with a plantigrade being. So this one became another group of baboon descendent and is a distant relative of another baboon-descendent with more canine/entelodont like characteristics.

This one is a rather big (grizzly-sized) omnivore, that rather chases other predators away than hunt on its own. Younger ones do regularly hunt but when they are fully grown they don't need to do that anymore.
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ScoutSpartan157 Nov 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's a bearboon!
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Bealmeister Jul 6, 2013  Student General Artist
Would there be any cats left in Africa at this time?
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:iconasanbonsam:
I can't tell you that. You would have to ask the admin of the Allocene group in that regard.
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Bealmeister Jul 7, 2013  Student General Artist
sounds good. Thank you anyway and nice work on the grizzly monkey.
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MaxterandKiwiKing Oct 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't remember primates having claws,or full-on bear bodies.
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:iconasanbonsam:
It is 35 million years into the future, also the Aye Aye for instance has claws
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MaxterandKiwiKing Oct 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes,but the body looks WAY too much like that of a bear.Also,Simians have been around since the eocene,and not once evolved claws.I would see a large predatory baboon looking more like a tailed,long snouted gorilla in build,only without knuckle walking.
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:iconasanbonsam:
So? I do not understand your point. At all.
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MaxterandKiwiKing Oct 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then let me reiterate.Not one higher primate(Simiiformes)ever had claws.Only some new world monkeies have a toilet-claw for grooming,which isn't even a real claw anyways.One might argue that the rumblebelly evolved claws for hunting.However,all predatory primates we know kill by biting their prey,beating it with their forelimbs,or bashing it on hard objects.Baboons are one example of these predatory primates.They have very strong arms,hunt animals much faster or larger than themselves,can chase away predators that are stronger than they are ,and do not have any sharp weaponry besides teeth.So,if a baboon were to evolve into a bear or entelodont like form,it would not need claws.It would already have the weapons necessary to exploit that niche.Also,climbing and scavenging are out of the question since primates have opposable thumbs and you don't need to kill something that's already dead.

I hope this cleared up my point for you.
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Not one bit. The Rumblebelly is an omnivore, the claws are too big for long hunts, and the overall body shape is also too heavy, and they evolved due to digging.
What you so far stated is always: the past didn't do it so it can't happen in the future. What do you think DNA is? Preprogrammed. The step from nails to claws is only short. There was a time when no lungs were there, did that stop the evolution of lungs? Or wings, horns, armor, spines, hooves etc.?
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